You cannot be joyful when you’re depressed. I had a conversation on Facebook discussing this and quite a few ideas came up during it, so I thought I’d share it here with you.

“…we spent a great deal of our spiritual life denying-bypassing-suppressing the night inside us, yes, we need to return to the black hole, the dark heart within the bright one. Are there not two chambers, one empty, one full? Learn from the moon.
Yet in the bleakest midnight of the soul, we can be ‘surprised by joy.’ We can suddenly rediscover the sun and relax into grace, that mysterious unbidden happiness. We can savor the free gift of warmth – which is the nature of our blood – the good smell of the fresh baked Bread of Life. It is well not to by-pass That either.
Every breath offered contains dark energy. Every breath received contains more starlight than the Milky Way. Why favor one or the other?
Have we vested so much energy in our trauma that it became our identity? Night the new hero, Light the new villain. ‘Holier than thou’ replaced by ‘darker than thou’ – yet both may be forms of spiritual pride.
True vulnerability arises in a groundless place beyond light and darkness: the radiance of the void.
These stumbling words come from one who has felt thunder bolts of agony, piercing, yet illuminating, the unfathomable bliss of night.” Alfred LaMotte

While what Fred says above is beautiful, and true, it is not always true for everyone. I believe that we cannot be joyful and depressed at the same time. My response to Fred’s facebook post (above) was thus:

Except in the case of extreme Soul loss due to trauma. Then there is no joy at all until the soul returns. I’ve been there several times and once relatively recently for 6 months. 6 months with no joy no lustre no colours at all in the day brings you to question your existence. I asked for my Soul to return each day each moment of each day and I did all I needed or could do to prepare for its arrival. And it did return one morning I woke up and there it was in the bed beside me waiting to infuse itself into me. Others don’t know about this. Others a never ask. Others walk this Earth for longer than 6 months like this. With no joy. No colours in their day. It’s like being a zombie. The walking dead. I write about it. I need to write more about it so thank you for the reminder.

Being joyful when you are depressed is a sign that you’re not truly depressed. There are different levels of depression, and different levels of joy. I believe that depression and sadness are not the same thing.

Further discussion was had based on my comment, my response to which was:

Anyone who has experienced depression will relate to what I have said. You have to go there to bring back the bounty! The hero’s journey. My journey has helped countless others, I don’t hold onto pain. I don’t hold onto anything. 

Joy brings us closer to our Soul as does pain. It’s part of the journey. Heaven and hell are right here, we don’t need to go anywhere to experience them, or to bring them onto ourselves.

I share this here in case one or more of you find value in it. People are not talking about Soul loss, and conventional medicine and psychotherapy are declaring themselves the way through depression. But spiritual work is fundamental if you want to move out of a depressed state, yes psychotherapy can help make sense of it, and medication helps if you’re chemically out of balance. But spirituality is the glue that holds us all together. When we come undone, we need that glue!

We all have the capacity to experience all of the emotions, we can be joyful. We all have the potential to lose parts of our Soul, and we become depressed. We all can receive back the missing parts of our Soul so we can feel whole and at purpose again. At purpose meaning a drive for life, a motivation and a direction, a reason to be here. The environment needs to be in right relationship for these Soul parts to want to come back to us, so there may be some work to do before they will stay with us. But they will come.

We may not all be able to get our Soul pieces back for ourselves. I was able to do it for myself. But that’s why I am here, to learn how to do it for myself so I can do it for others. I know that many people who have been diagnosed with clinical depression are experiencing Soul loss, some of it is inherited Soul loss. If this resonates with you, then consider asking for a Soul retrieval.

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If you feel you may need a Soul retrieval, I have two downloadable audio files that you can choose from. Soul Retrieval Pre-Recorded Healing Session, and a Soul Retrieval Group Healing Session Replay. If you want to know more, here’s a link to my SoundCloud called What is Soul Loss?

On first listen you may not feel a huge difference, but that could be your body preparing to do the work. I recommend listening at least 3 times, over the course of 2 weeks. ❤️